tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post9222215855726538066..comments2024-03-28T15:36:02.733-04:00Comments on EPBOT: I Think I'm Finally Ready To Talk About Black PantherJenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11888187687405622408noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-78382498814087754302019-03-23T15:58:17.132-04:002019-03-23T15:58:17.132-04:00I actually think it's pretty clear that not ev...I actually think it's pretty clear that not everyone in Wakanda is on T'Challa side. Sure he is the beloved king, son of a beloved king before him, but he didn't seem very active, or wanting to take a strong stance with the world. Killmonger presents himself as the solution, with the platform that not only should T'challa have taken care of Klaw and returned the stolen Vibranium, but also he should take a strong stance for justice (Killmongers view of justice) around the world. In the end T'Challa realizes the desires of people that he has neglected in his rule, and he chooses to make a bold decision, it's not Killmonger's, but it does address the people's worry about T'Challa as a weak king.<br /><br />I love that the culture holds on to their roots which prize the physical strength of their leaders, but have adapted to also elevating the social and intelligent aspects of rule.VeggieThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06390027231146082845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-23804899969692795502018-04-02T22:49:11.100-04:002018-04-02T22:49:11.100-04:00Just because no one can remember his name, and he&...Just because no one can remember his name, and he's awesome ...the gorilla chief is named M'BUKU! :D Haleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17148057976751121804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-1281232954962330412018-03-25T18:21:59.890-04:002018-03-25T18:21:59.890-04:00There's more than one type/form of racism, and...There's more than one type/form of racism, and Pinkie's definition is correct in that anyone can be racist against anyone else -- if a POC [person of color] hates or discriminates against a Caucasian person BECAUSE that person is Caucasian, that's racism, just as when it's the other way around. While systemic and institutional racism in the U.S. is biased *for* Caucasians and *against* POC, individuals can still be racist *against* Caucasians.Panyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07047963482554239509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-19700436506396181572018-03-13T14:40:17.915-04:002018-03-13T14:40:17.915-04:00he never yielded. I don't think he lost accord...he never yielded. I don't think he lost according to their laws. LaurenKEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-29756885765499300412018-03-13T09:28:04.186-04:002018-03-13T09:28:04.186-04:00King is okay here. Xanth had to have a king, but ...King is okay here. Xanth had to have a king, but eventually had women kings.Granny Robertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421699357402761385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-22365648345061418822018-03-06T21:06:14.356-05:002018-03-06T21:06:14.356-05:00i think she meant that it is small stakes in the m...i think she meant that it is small stakes in the marvel world. as in one small country not entire planets being taken over/destroyed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08183276967263628667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-28775766281267599102018-03-05T21:00:17.736-05:002018-03-05T21:00:17.736-05:00I think everyone covered everything I've been ...I think everyone covered everything I've been thinking about this movie. I would add that I haven't sat through a Marvel movie that made me cry that much. I was so hoping that Killmonger was saveable since Michael B. Jordan was so good in the role. <br />I think we saw the movie last week, and I can't stop thinking about it. By far my favorite Marvel movie, also just a favorite movie in general.One Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768744370858632841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-77660036159878986282018-03-05T20:51:07.920-05:002018-03-05T20:51:07.920-05:00@Tiffsquatch, this is definitely how I saw it. T&#...@Tiffsquatch, this is definitely how I saw it. T'Challa grew into the realization that the people around him had wisdom to share.One Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768744370858632841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-90907892196114473872018-03-05T20:03:53.611-05:002018-03-05T20:03:53.611-05:00I think a lot went over your head if you only see ...I think a lot went over your head if you only see the issues as small stakes. I hope you take the time to do some more reading about the significance this movie has for the black community and specifically for black feminism. Petrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899480546427644624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-23284077406493488922018-03-05T16:35:53.342-05:002018-03-05T16:35:53.342-05:00Not only is Danai Gurira a phenomenal actress (Yes...Not only is Danai Gurira a phenomenal actress (Yes, go watch her in Walking Dead... the woman is a FORCE), but she's also an exceptionally gifted playwright! Look up her recent interview on Chris Hardwick's Id10T podcast, it's delightful! Dr.Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11699496036458555343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-10413299995569150562018-03-05T14:50:50.707-05:002018-03-05T14:50:50.707-05:00The actor who portrayed the cigarette smoking man ...The actor who portrayed the cigarette smoking man on x-file once said in an interview that the best villains are the ones who think they are the heroes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-87588489628578831482018-03-05T11:44:41.820-05:002018-03-05T11:44:41.820-05:00But, in the end the women were right. And I think ...But, in the end the women were right. And I think this movie was also largely about T'Challa growing up and growing into his leadership role. He had a very concrete idea of what it meant to be a leader from watching his father and then he realizes that so much of what he thought he knew was wrong. I don't think that it's necessarily that the women's knowledge and wisdom is ignored until produced by a man, but that T'Challa grows so much throughout the film. He REALIZES Nakia is right and that Wakanda shouldn't be as isolated as they are. And he moves to make those changes, with her right by his side.Tiffsquatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742891623879416756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-8320594194848531632018-03-05T11:12:47.137-05:002018-03-05T11:12:47.137-05:00Answering one of Jen's very minor questions: n...Answering one of Jen's very minor questions: not just anybody can challenge the current king to Single Combat, you have to have the right lineage. Killmonger is T'Challa's cousin. The Wakandan Jedi Council makes him prove it. My inference is that any of the leaders of any of the tribes that make up Wakanda could rule the entire country, but for several generations its been settles as this one, and everyone's okay with that for the most part. Not saying this is a great way to choose a leader...ldpmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13309554945285601677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-9688248753534732442018-03-05T10:46:23.695-05:002018-03-05T10:46:23.695-05:00I don't think it was ANYONE could be king if t...I don't think it was ANYONE could be king if they won a fist fight. Wakanda was a confederation of tribes, and at the transition to a new king, any of them could offer their own candidates over the heir. And then anyone in the royal family could challenge. That's why Killmonger was able to challenge, because he was of the royal family of Wakanda.<br /><br />I absolutely adored the movie as well. It was just beautiful and touching and vibrant. I loved most that the women weren't presented as "here is the strong woman character." They were just characters who happened to be women. Other than the ex and the mom, they didn't have to specifically be women, and none of their motivations were based solely on their being women. They were richly developed, three-dimensional characters.Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-79836378577407881602018-03-05T10:40:36.449-05:002018-03-05T10:40:36.449-05:00They did at least show the rhinos early on. When T...They did at least show the rhinos early on. When T'Challa came to visit his friend early on, it showed that his tribe was the one that raised and trained the rhinos. Which also explains why Okoye knew that one of them wouldn't attack her.Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-40919940485903614772018-03-05T09:20:48.017-05:002018-03-05T09:20:48.017-05:00I was really ticked off at T'Challa's frie...I was really ticked off at T'Challa's friend in the last fight scene.... When Okoye stopped the rampaging rhino, and he asks, "are you going to kill me, my love?" Ummmm....just what were you trying to do to her and the other women not seconds before??!!?!?!?! I loved that she didn't beg him to stop for love, blah blah blah... The women made the movie!Olganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-38345673173361459772018-03-05T05:34:12.499-05:002018-03-05T05:34:12.499-05:00One nuance a lot of folks miss is the significance...One nuance a lot of folks miss is the significance of burning the herb garden. He isn't just 'doing away with the old tradions' or anything. No, he is very deliberately making sure he is the last king of Wakanda.<br /><br />Why? Because he knows that even with the destabilizing of the world, they probably won't be able to unsettle things enough. There's going to be a counter attack, and Wakanda will be in big trouble.<br /><br />Taking over the world isn't his goal. That's a side benefit. His goal is punishing Wakanda. Destroying it. Even if it survives, it will not be the same.<br /><br />Also, show of hands, who caught the Chekov's gun of the railway sonic gizmos? Robin Bobcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-24670350032443263182018-03-04T22:02:37.786-05:002018-03-04T22:02:37.786-05:00Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation. :)
Pinkie We...Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation. :)<br />Pinkie Welborne, 17<br />IndianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-1864688470040982712018-03-04T21:30:24.556-05:002018-03-04T21:30:24.556-05:00Okay, that makes sense. Thanks, Deb. :)
I just rea...Okay, that makes sense. Thanks, Deb. :)<br />I just realized I asked why the sister didn't get a chance to be king...I must really have been out of it this morning. Just pretend I said ruler there. ;)Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10122010407341817008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-2427548491531279562018-03-04T19:39:17.298-05:002018-03-04T19:39:17.298-05:00I'm actually really glad for the villain switc...I'm actually really glad for the villain switch! Partially because Klaue didn't really work for me, partially because I thought the story between Killmonger and T'Challa was more interesting than between Klaue and T'Challa. :-) The last battle did drag a bit... I think I'm a little burned out on action movies, but I'm too invested in the parts of the MCU I love to take a break.<br /><br />Also yeeeeessssss, all the women. I am so, so happy that three-fourths of the main protags are women, who are all competent in different fields, and none of whom die! I keep switching who I think my favorite is.Torynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-7426120713287085692018-03-04T19:16:40.313-05:002018-03-04T19:16:40.313-05:00Killmonger had some really valid points! I get it ...Killmonger had some really valid points! I get it too! But he wanted to violently overthrow the oppressors...Renitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-75488851343868693582018-03-04T19:14:09.593-05:002018-03-04T19:14:09.593-05:00Any single person can be biased or biogoted agains...Any single person can be biased or biogoted against another person based on their race (or many other factors), and that’s definitely also wrong... but racism is an institutional bias, reinforced by society. Since white people are at the top of that society, racism can’t really be perpetuated against us. People who claim reverse racism generally don’t understand white supremacy or don’t want to. Renitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-14930289983072166712018-03-04T16:34:51.953-05:002018-03-04T16:34:51.953-05:00AND SHE WAS WEARING FLAT SHOES. Awesome shiny gold...AND SHE WAS WEARING FLAT SHOES. Awesome shiny gold boots, but they were FLAT.yasmarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00277982964856881614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-6486098875315675662018-03-04T14:37:24.759-05:002018-03-04T14:37:24.759-05:00No, the challenge isn't over until one of the ...No, the challenge isn't over until one of the combatants dies or concedes. The first challenge ended because gorilla guy conceded. T'Challa didn't die, and didn't concede, so the fight was still on, so Killmonger wasn't legitimately king. That's why the Dora Milaje felt justified in changing allegiance back to T'Challa once he showed up.Deb Morrisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15866601029884250228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724594058209899258.post-24111503863326065002018-03-04T09:56:35.692-05:002018-03-04T09:56:35.692-05:00Love this idea!!! 😍 Love this idea!!! 😍 Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152194931410482283noreply@blogger.com